Sync that is independent of the Apple ID
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Nafissa Hassan
I have been using Obsidian for about a year now. I much prefer NotePlan.
My only issue with NotePlan, is that in order to use the native app, I have to be signed into my AppleID to keep things in sync.
That is difficult to do on my work machine, since I can't use my personal AppleID on my work Macbook.
Would it be possible to implement a sync that works similar to Obsidian's Sync?
That would solve the only hurdle that's preventing me from fully committing to NotePlan.
Another way to address this limitation, is to make it easier to share the synced files between two different AppleIDs.
Thank you!
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Nafissa Hassan
Pan, just joined the forum (username: 'volcanic-glass')
Pan
Hi Nafissa, thanks for explaining. I completely understand - I would like Obsidian to have that neat native feel that Noteplan and Bear have, and I can see how Noteplan works much better for task management. There are people who use Obsidian for that, and have configured it to do all sorts of things, but I am not one of them.
I use Obsidian for making notes of ideas, research, meetings and events, and linking them. It seems to be most helpful for that, easily allowing filename and tag changes, properties, prompting relevant files, allowing flexibilty eto how links appear on a note etc. I use the Templater plugin to create certain new notes using scripts that fill relevant fields on creation, and Dataview to pull together notes that fit certain conditions. Obsiidan allows me the flexibility to do what I like to do in this context, as long as I find out how to do it.)
For task management, I use Things. I don't feel like inventing a task management workflow in Obsisian when there are perfectly good ones like Things and, if you don't mind giving up some immediacy for more flexibility and organised persistence, Noteplan.
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Nafissa Hassan
Pan thank you Pan, that explains things well.
It’s funny, because I am currently using things as my task-manager too while trying to research a better setup.
Thank you for mentioning the plugins. I will explore those for my obsidian setup to improve on my usage of it as a second brain.
Really appreciate you taking the time to respond and talking a little bit about your own setup!
Pan
No problem, Nafissa, I also appreciate your taking the time.
I found myself trying to find the one native application that integrates the features of Things and Obsidian in a delightful way (Eduard knows this), but it doesn't yet exist. Noteplan seems, in a way, to be the closest.
Let me know if your explorations lead to any interesting discoveries that you wish to share. It may be more appropriate for this purpose to find me - Nifty - on the Obsidian forum.
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Nafissa Hassan
Pan sure thing! Definitely, I’ll get in touch if I make any interesting/useful discoveries. I’ll check out the Obsidian forum and will get in contact, in case you have findings you would like to share in the future as well 😊
Eduard Metzger
A workaround could be to use a teamspace. We are considering offering this for private notes, but right now it's more of a workaround. Means you can create a teamspace and use that for syncing.
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Nafissa Hassan
Eduard Metzger unfortunately that would mean having to purchase a teamspace subscription or an additional personal subscription :(
Eduard Metzger
Nafissa Hassan Or just a personal subscription (through our website rather than the App Store). A teamspace subscription is not required. But an App Store subscription doesn't let you link it to an email address.
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Nafissa Hassan
Eduard Metzger that sounds promising. So if I create a subscription via the website, I can use a teamspace to sync my notes without additional accounts or charge?
Just want to make sure I am following, since I would still like to use the native app.
Thank you for taking the time to respond Eduard!
Eduard Metzger
Nafissa Hassan Yes, exactly. Teamspaces don't need a different subscription. You can also use it with your Apple subscription. Just the issue would be that on your other device it would not detect it due to the different Apple ID, but a website subscription is based on your email address, not on the Apple ID.
You can give it a shot within the 7 day trial and email us (hello[at]noteplan.co) if you run into issues.
The disadvantage will be of course, that you need to remember to use the teamspace as your notes and not the local notes.
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Nafissa Hassan
Eduard Metzger thank you Eduard, I’ll give this a shot!
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Nafissa Hassan
Hey Eduard Metzger!
Thank you again for taking the time to give some advice.
Unfortunately, I have access to NotePlan via Setapp, and I believe it's already linked to my appleId (not quite sure how to change that to use my Email instead). Is there a possible workaround for this scenario?
Again, really appreciate your time and responsiveness!
Eduard Metzger
Nafissa Hassan Sorry, forgot to mention that teamspaces are an App Store subscription exclusive right now.
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Nafissa Hassan
Eduard Metzger no worries! Thank you for your time!
Pan
Hi Nafissa, I am interested that you prefer Noteplan to Obsidian. May I ask what you were using Obsidian for? If for planning days and projects, I can understand, but there are other functions which I find can only be implemented in Obsidian. Some are enabled by plugins like Dataview and Templater, with their support of JS. Your comment made me wonder whether I'm missing something in Noteplan, or whether your use of Obsidian is different to mine.
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Nafissa Hassan
Pan I like the simplicity of Noteplan. It does exactly what I need it to without plugins. Obsidian is very versatile and a fantastic tool. It's just the amount of options become a distraction to my workflow. I might go back to Obsidian depending on whether I can access Noteplan for both work and personal notes or not.
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Nafissa Hassan
TBH, if I were to find the ideal tool, it would be a a merge of Noteplan and Bear.
I like Bear's simplicity(and tags), and would love to use it as my PKMS. While Noteplan's calendar integration and time-blocking features work perfectly for my task management.
Obsidian can probably do both, I probably just have to spend some time to set up my Obsidian workflow. I mainly used it as a PKMS previously.
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Nafissa Hassan
Pan If it's not too much trouble, could you explain your Obsidian workflow in more detail? Maybe you have a better system in place, that I could take inspiration from.
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unnoted
What about the web app? it's there to allow us to use NotePlan on work computers and windows. The benefit of it is also the fact that you won't have the files stored on computer you don't own, so they will never have access to them.
It's not on the same level of functionality as the native app, but I've been using it this way for two months and it work decently.
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Nafissa Hassan
unnotedI Definitely, personally I prefer native apps though. It's easier to fit a native app in my workflow than a web-app. Since I enjoy using shortcuts and being able to switch between apps, rather than juggling apps and a web tab/window.